[forum] Re: [XFree86] Invitation for public discussion about the future of X
georgina o economou
forum@XFree86.Org
Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:40:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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Subject: Re: [forum] Re: [XFree86] Invitation for public discussion about
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:37:34 +0000, Keith Whitwell wrote:=0D
> XFree86 BOD wrote:=0D
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> >It has been brought to the attention of the XFree86 Core Team that one=
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> >of its members, Keith Packard, has been actively (but privately) seeki=
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> >out support for a fork of XFree86 that would be led by himself. He is=0D
> >also in the process of forming a by-invitation-only group of vested=0D
> >interests to discuss privately concerns he has about XFree86 and the=0D
> >future of X. He has consistently refused to even disclose these concer=
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> >within the context of the XFree86 Core Team, which makes his membershi=
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> >of that team unviable. As a consequence, Keith Packard is no longer a=0D
> >member of the XFree86 Core Team.=0D
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> What specifically does the XFree86 bod see as being wrong with the idea=
of
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> a 'by-invitation-only group' managing X server development? Isn't that =
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> exactly what the core team & xfree86 BOD have been doing all along?=0D
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Not exactly. Long ago, that was probably right, but these days you=0D
could probably see the Core Team as a bunch of committers to the CVS,=0D
obviously with their own areas of technical knowledge as well.=0D
And yes, we've met on occasion, but more in the reality of a coding=0D
frenzy to work on what we wanted to work on. More recently to talk about=0D
XFree86 5.0, of which I've sent what I wrote down to this list already.=0D
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That's good to hear that Five-Oh is going public. I think allot of
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needs to be done there. Some of the technical ideas on this list I think
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be good input into the Five-Oh design.=0D
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Georgina
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m] Re: [XFree86] Invitation for public discussion about the future of X</=
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<DIV>On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:37:34 +0000, Keith Whitwell wrote:<BR>>=
; XFree86 BOD wrote:<BR>> <BR>> >It has been brought to the atte=
ntion of the XFree86 Core Team that one<BR>> >of its members, Keith=
Packard, has been actively (but privately) seeking<BR>> >out suppo=
rt for a fork of XFree86 that would be led by himself. He is<BR>> >=
also in the process of forming a by-invitation-only group of vested<BR>&g=
t; >interests to discuss privately concerns he has about XFree86 and t=
he<BR>> >future of X. He has consistently refused to even disclose =
these concerns<BR>> >within the context of the XFree86 Core Team, w=
hich makes his membership<BR>> >of that team unviable. As a consequ=
ence, Keith Packard is no longer a<BR>> >member of the XFree86 Core=
Team.<BR>> <BR>> What specifically does the XFree86 bod see as bei=
ng wrong with the idea of <BR>> a 'by-invitation-only group' managing =
X server development? Isn't that <BR>> exactly what the core team &=
; xfree86 BOD have been doing all along?<BR><BR>Not exactly. Long ago, th=
at was probably right, but these days you<BR>could probably see the Core =
Team as a bunch of committers to the CVS,<BR>obviously with their own are=
as of technical knowledge as well.<BR>And yes, we've met on occasion, but=
more in the reality of a coding<BR>frenzy to work on what we wanted to w=
ork on. More recently to talk about<BR>XFree86 5.0, of which I've sent wh=
at I wrote down to this list already.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>That's good to hear that Five-Oh is going public. I think allo=
t of discussion</DIV>
<DIV>needs to be done there. Some of the technical ideas on this li=
st I think would </DIV>
<DIV>be good input into the Five-Oh design.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Georgina</DIV></TD></TR>
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