[forum] XFree86's Future and thoughts and suggestions

[Rob Taylor]

Why is creating one new mailing list a lot of work? that is all i advocate
below.

Please explain your objection

Rob Taylor
Senior Developer    robt at flyingpig dot com
Flying Pig Systems  http://www.flyingpig.com

>  Rob, that sounds like allot of work and rather complicated.
> Next you'll be
> advocating, as some groups do, all discussions should be on Bugzilla..  At
> that point, I think there would be few takers.
>
> Georgina
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: forum@XFree86.Org
> Date: Thursday, April 03, 2003 05:21:47 AM
> To: forum@xfree86.org
> Subject: RE: [forum] XFree86's Future and thoughts and suggestions
>
> > On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 07:49:20PM +0530, Biju Chacko wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 15:52, Egbert Eich wrote:
> > > > Would a named list of maintainers make a difference?
> > > > This however is no guarantee for speedy handling
> > > > as maintainers may be limited with their time.
> > >
> > > I think it's fairly obvious that the current way of doing things has
> > > been less than optimal. We all understand that maintainers
> have limited
> > > resources (thats true of pretty much all of us).
> > >
> > > I think the current complaint is that patches seemingly
> disappear into a
> > > black hole. I think the maintainers need to do *something* to
> > > acknowledge patches, even if it's a one line 'Received. Will
> look at it
> > > in the next month or so."
> >
> > You are aware that each patch you send get an ACK as return, as well as
> > a patch number, are you ?
>
> LOL.. Yes, you send a patch having tried to discuss how+why you're
> implementing it on xpert, but everyone ignored you, then you get a machine
> generated reply, then noone ever talks to you again....
>
>
> Thats the problem that needs to be fixed. Hopefully bugzilla, suitably
> policed, will fix the latter half of the problem, but I don't see
> how to fix
> the 1st half - If the current set of main xfree86 developers are
> unable/unwilling to discuss anything with new developers, then there's no
> process change that can fix this.
>
> also, please, core developers don't reply saying 'we *do* reply to new
> developers' go look though your xpert archives and you will find that
> overwhelmingly this isn't the case.
>
>
> So what can we do to rectify this?
>
> One thing that comes to mind is that xpert (or devel as now
> known) is still
> being used as a place where newbies log bugs or ask for config help. Its
> purpose seems to be *both* for developing xfree86 and developing
> *with* X11.
> I suspect this doesn't help, and rather than directing these
> posts elswhere,
> they get actively pandered to!!
>
> So my 1st suggestion. Lets have separate lists for the development of
> xfree86 (devel) and for development with/setup issues with xfree86 (tech).
> Any actual bugs that arise in tech should be logged in bugzilla, and then
> they can go and be discussed on devel.
>
>
> How does that sound to everyone?
>
>
>
> Rob Taylor mailto:robt@flyingpig.com
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